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Post by kennedysdaddy on Apr 5, 2007 22:05:15 GMT -5
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Post by quartetfan on Apr 5, 2007 22:07:34 GMT -5
The very best thing about him is he seems like he really wants the job. Second best is he is 100% basketball 24-7.
I have some reservations about Style of play and recruiting, but given the job he's done at TAM he should be able to recruit at UK.
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Post by numnum07 on Apr 5, 2007 22:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by ukwildcattrav on Apr 5, 2007 22:23:04 GMT -5
I agree, the more I've been reading about him, the more I'm liking him.
I don't think he'll view this job as a stop in the road (like Ratino or Donovan probably would have before going to the NBA)...this would be a dream job for Billy G.
From the looks, this guy eats, breathes and sleeps basketball, plus he's not married and has no kids. Baskeball is his wife....
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Post by Chris on Apr 5, 2007 22:25:23 GMT -5
Check out this quote from Wikipedia. "After leading both UTEP and Texas A&M to postseason appearances after extraordinarily weak seasons, Gillispie became the only college basketball coach to be in charge of the NCAA program with the biggest turnaround in two consecutive seasons. An excellent recruiter, Gillispie has put together four straight top-25 recruiting classes.[4] In his three seasons at A&M, the Aggies have achieved three consecutive 20-win seasons for the first time ever.[5]" Here is a link to the entire page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_gillispieI will admit I did not know much about him but the more I read, the better he sounds.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 9:39:49 GMT -5
It is not as good as you claim
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Post by dmack2027 on Apr 6, 2007 9:48:01 GMT -5
Greg, looking objectively at this situation. Do you not feel that he can be a successful recruiter at UK? Selling someone on Texas A and M is much different than selling them on UK.
Wont his texas ties help immensely with recruiting? Tubby had no ties to any region, and Texas continues to produce as substantial amount of prospects.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 9:49:59 GMT -5
Greg, looking objectively at this situation. Do you not feel that he can be a successful recruiter at UK? Selling someone on Texas A and M is much different than selling them on UK. Wont his texas ties help immensely with recruiting? Tubby had no ties to any region, and Texas continues to produce as substantial amount of prospects. No I dont. They will not like his style of play (SLOWER than Tubby Smith) so if style of play is important to a recruit we will be right where we were with Tubby Smith. He cant recruit nationally. That "vaunted" class was local. And 3 were unranked players. One was a JC transfer. Is that what we want... someone who cant recruit nationally. This is a major mistake.
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Post by wildcatfanman3pt on Apr 6, 2007 9:53:01 GMT -5
Geek you say he's not that good in a couple posts but never back up your word. Tell me why he isn't.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 9:55:19 GMT -5
I have...
In many threads.
1. Slow style of play. If you wanted a better style of play. Mitch failed.
2. He cant recruit nationally. If you wanted someone who can recruit nationally and better... Mitch failed.
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I could go on but those are 2 major setbacks right there.
If he didnt have Acie Law last year (who he DIDNT recruit) we wouldnt be having this conversation about Gillespie becoming our coach.
This is a big big mistake.
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Post by dmack2027 on Apr 6, 2007 9:58:02 GMT -5
Who would you have suggested?
Ford and Pel have not recruited nationally. This guy is dedicated to his job. What about what he did under self as the main recruiter.
If you are Mitch, with the amount of pressure on you, no way can you take a chance on Ford or Pel at this point in their careers.
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Post by dmack2027 on Apr 6, 2007 10:00:22 GMT -5
While Pel or Ford might be what some fans want, that would not be the kind of national attention we need to rejuvinate this program.
I think this is a good hire. We get an up and coming coach, who was nationally recognized as such all season long, who will breathe new life into this program. It also has to be encouraging for Joe and Ramel, seeing what Acie was allowed to do under Billy's system.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 10:02:15 GMT -5
Pelphrey has done it enough a being Head recruiter at Florida.
Ford you may be right.
My issue again is that Billy G doesnt have a clue what it means to be Head coach of UK.
he has never been here. The closest thing was being an assistant to Bill Self.
So now we are going to be using a coaches assistant who hasnt won a big game either.
His only positive point was recruiting the class at Illinois (he was head recruiter for Self at Illinois) when they recruited Deron WIlliams and Brown, etc. that finished second to UNC a few years ago.
That is it. That is the only class. And again, it was a LOCAL class in Illinois...he hasnt recruited well nationally.
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Post by wildcatfanman3pt on Apr 6, 2007 10:02:36 GMT -5
Having A Slow style of play doesn't make him a bad coach. As far as recruiting goes, he's recruited for Bill Self at Illinois and Tulsa. I think he can. So you would rather have Barns which has already said he didn't want to leave. Who is totally inconsistent. Or who else? Izoo won't come. Mark Few? laugh... Jay Wright- hasn't shown me anything as far as recruiting goes. Or do you want to wait till June to get the Sun's head coach? Gillispie is the best option that was open. He's proven that he can win wherever he goes. I have confidence in him.
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Post by Chad, Why Hide Your Identity? on Apr 6, 2007 10:04:40 GMT -5
I have... In many threads. 1. Slow style of play. If you wanted a better style of play. Mitch failed. 2. He cant recruit nationally. If you wanted someone who can recruit nationally and better... Mitch failed. --- I could go on but those are 2 major setbacks right there. If he didnt have Acie Law last year (who he DIDNT recruit) we wouldnt be having this conversation about Gillespie becoming our coach. This is a big big mistake. Wrong you don't know that. His personality mixed with Ketucky will be lethal on the recruiting trail. Please stop being Mr. Debbie downer and everything has to be about Greg. This guy is on the rise.
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Post by wildcatfanman3pt on Apr 6, 2007 10:05:04 GMT -5
I agre with you on Billy G not knowing what to do at a Big Program like UofK. But he will adjust very quickly.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 10:06:55 GMT -5
Once again his recruiting has been recruiting well in the state where he was the assistant coach... and now as head coach of TAMU.
Whoopie. he cant recruit nationally.
He MIGHT get Jordan to follow him (he will have to appeal his LOI to Texas A*M as said in other threads) but that is because he is from the area...
his style of play is so similar to Tubby Smith... I am very surprised that you all do not see this.
It is SO similar even my kids noticed it...
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Post by wildcatfanman3pt on Apr 6, 2007 10:11:32 GMT -5
I noticed it. But I really don't see how that fall into the category of being a bad coach? I don't particularly like the slow play, but you will never see me using the term "plow." I didn't complain when Tubby was here, and I won't now.
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Post by Geekcat on Apr 6, 2007 10:13:28 GMT -5
if our former coach wasnt good enough (he wasnt bad either) then this is a bad move.
I am not saying he is a bad coach... He just isnt UK material.
So that is a bad move...
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Post by wildcatfanman3pt on Apr 6, 2007 10:15:19 GMT -5
So tell me who you would of liked outside Gillipsie. Besides Donovan of course
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